Midleved chat 4/08/2011 - Homework expectations for Middle School students
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Cynthia Keech
ckeech Cynthia Keech
Late comment: How would you feel if you went to work everyday for 8+hours & still had to bring work home everyday?You'd quit too. #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
TX to all. Enjoyed the chat. #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Thanks for the convo tonight...enjoyed it. Have a great weekend! #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Fab chat! Tx all! #midleved
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
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@brianwyzlic Try to balance. Sometimes a lot of choice, others just few. Too many options can overwhelm creative perfectionist! #midleved
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
Enjoyed the chat tonight #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved thanks for the great conversation!!! :)
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
Thanks for the chat. Have a lovely night. #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
New poll for next week: http://j.mp/hBYFCL #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@ckeech think your point about feedback and correction is impt. #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason TY for the link to the article. #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
@mthman @francesblo Thanks for providing this important topic to discuss #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Please add topic suggestions for future chats on the wiki also! http://j.mp/gl0zcy #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Where did the time go? Just 5 mins remain. Don't forget to check the archive http://j.mp/gl0zcy #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
Not sure if wd B of int, but this is an article I wrote abot teaching gr 8 kids who were reluctant learners. http://scr.bi/fHvVhv #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@ckeech Practice depends on subject. #midleved
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Brian Wyzlic
brianwyzlic Brian Wyzlic
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@janellewilson I've had times where parents were upset about the way the Ss chose, and the feedback is basically fewer choices #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@hale27storm I have seen that and parents demanding textbook be sent home too #midleved
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Cynthia Keech
ckeech Cynthia Keech
#midleved Practice should happen in the classroom where the teacher can monitor and correct.
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
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@brianwyzlic I have a very supportive principal who challenges us to provide our students with creative/collaborative experiences #midleved
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Haley
hale27storm Haley
#midleved. I've had parents complain I don't assign homework.
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved and getting them to choose or do homework prepares them for HS
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Brian Wyzlic
brianwyzlic Brian Wyzlic
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@janellewilson choice is so important to the #midleved student. Unfortunately, admins and parents don't always realize this.
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason i didn't have any. It took a lot of time, work &consistency to help delayed readers develop the habit & confidence of rdg #Midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@mthman I've asked kids to go home, summarize and article and get their parent's opinion on the topic. Come ready to share. #midleved
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Kay Endriss
ekendriss Kay Endriss
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@padgets very interested in your list of 26 ways to do an assignment. can you share? #midleved
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
I am super flexible w/deadlines. I understand kids are busy. Allow assignments to b redone & tests to be retaken. Goal: learning! #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@mthman love that idea of math games. Bet your kids wd like #minecraft. #Midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly #midleved What about the kids who didn't choose?
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I love whyville for games
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@cybraryman1 my dissertation focused on articulating a theory for learning based on exp w/ grade 8 and grade 1. Rdg matters. #Midleved
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Haley
hale27storm Haley
#midleved don't assign homework. I teach r/w workshop. kids work on things at home even when I don't ask b/c they like what we're doing
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
My favorite math HW is to ask Ss to go home, play a math game w/family & friends then bring data/experiences back to class. #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@MaryAnnReilly So important to get #midleved students reading
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I also have what is called the Biology Agenda kids get what to do the whole week teacher facilitators not center of class
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@francesblo Agreed that It took time to get everyone in the habit of rdg. But i clar lots out of the way to privilege rdg. #Midleved
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
#midleved I accepted hwk from those who wanted to do it. If they didn't they still got to learn in my class. Hwk didn't indicate success.
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
#midleved The fact that some teachers assign "bad" homework shouldn't be the reason for having no homework.
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
#midleved Homework has to be tailored to the class, has to be overt in purpose, and must connect to the class as more than a grade.
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@MaryAnnReilly But the kids who most need the read/write practice won't do it without a push #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
YOU ROCK! RT @janellewilson: I got videos, hand drawn, PowerPoints, info in Word docs, Glogs, etc. I live incorporating choice. #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@janellewilson appreciate that there is choice. #Midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
As a #Midleved teacher I did not assign homework. That didn't mean kids didn't chose to read & write. #Midleved
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
I got videos, hand drawn, PowerPoints, info in Word docs, Glogs, etc. I live incorporating choice. #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I guess I see my activities not as homework but "discovery" labs
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Instead of a review sheet...give frequent short pop quizzes about earlier material, go over quiz, but don't count for grade #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@brianwyzlic i raised that as ? too. #Midleved
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
I recently gave students assignment to do illustrated history/astro timeline. Only requirement was to include info, format open #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@mthman I have that & other good links on my HW Debate page: http://tinyurl.com/4v5r2v8 #midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
RT @mthman: Nice table of alternatives to traditional HW "Show Us What HW's For" Ed Leadership article http://j.mp/eEKvT5 #midleved #edchat
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
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@brianwyzlic #midleved I didn't assign homework until parental pressure made me do it. Most of the kids hated it til I did HO thinking hwk
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason that's great. it helps when parents feel gd about their child's education. #Midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Nice table of alternatives to traditional HW in the "Show Us What HW's For" Ed Leadership article. http://j.mp/eEKvT5 #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@francesblo Not to mention the saved paper but emailing it and added creativity if the do a PP or video. #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved in my science class we are an inquiry based no textbook
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly My kids teacher is awesome; and I think the way I'm connected to what's in class is one of her best traits. #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@hrmason Agree re typing. They ask me: OK to type it? LD kids find spellcheck, grammar check helps, too. #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved My kids love to blog google apps give me so many ways to get kid to talk to each other is great to see
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason think it's great ur child is rdg. not all 5 yrs r able 2 do so. Choice matters. #Midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@francesblo Plus, many kids prefer to type; not able to make that happen in class. #midleved
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
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@mthman Yes. On class blog - post everything we do in class & specs on all assignments there. #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason i hear u as to difficulty 2 help kids deepen rdg & writing. Have u played #minecraft? Think it can deepen literacy #Midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@hrmason Never enough time for class writing - that's y some is done at home. Else not enough practice, time to reflect, improve #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly @fnoschese #midleved My 5yo reads to ME as part of her homework. I also help her with math and words. I feel more empowered.
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Brian Wyzlic
brianwyzlic Brian Wyzlic
I missed about 20 minutes here, so I apologize if this has been asked, but does anybody not assign HW/not want to? #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@fnoschese there's no research I know of that supports giving 5 year olds any homework. Being read to is valuable. #Midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
I sometimes require redo when kids handed in poor quality writing #midleved.
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Janelle Wilson
janellewilson Janelle Wilson
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@mthman Email & blog comments although most of my assignments are projects & not due day after assigned. #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@padgets #midleved We use Edline. I think they are similar. I want to use more of it's features next year.
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
I watched my son playing #minecraft for 2 hrs 2night as he taught himself aspects of game Seemed more valuablethan HW he gets #Midleved
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
We use powerschool #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
If a Ss has to rush through, or not do, HW that speaks volumes about it's purpose. #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved we use Powerschool anybody else?
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Brian Wyzlic
brianwyzlic Brian Wyzlic
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@mthman I try to tailor HW, not just in depth but in number, size, etc. Our grading software makes this messy, but we deal. #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly #midleved I encourage parents to read with kids, put links to what we're reading online. Find ways for them to connect.
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@MaryAnnReilly I value family time, but most #midleved Ss have hours before they are with family, and many hrs doing sports, activities.
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I should say that we have 2 labs of PC and Mac computers I can use so I am very lucky
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
Where I work when we analyze course failures & a maj can be att to not doing homework. That has changed in our middle school. #Midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
We were required by our administration to give a daily homework assignment #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly #midleved I struggle w/ not having enough time to give kids what research says they should have, name adq. time to read/write
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved we give 1 day + a day for absent and 5% off for each day late
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@fnoschese i am speechless. #Midleved
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
RT @padgets: #midleved I have a list of 26 different ways to do an assignment kids get to choose which one they do #Midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@Boz23 Here we have one parent saying HW is to please parents, another saying the parent doesn't want it. .. #midleved Interesting
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@padgets #midleved Other than projects (which have ckpts) and final drafts for portfolios (we have conf.), I allow students to redo all work
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@hrmason not suggesting all of it is wrong. How is it valuable? Shd family time be privileged? #Midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved we had the power of I but stopped
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@mthman See my HW System: http://tinyurl.com/4w5y8su #midleved
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
emphasis on quality work and learning #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I have a list of 26 different ways to do an assignment kids get to choose which one they do
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@rushtheiceberg @francesblo #midleved I want students be thoughtful about their writing. That takes time as well. Not enough in class.
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
How about a late or absent policy? RT @padgets: #midleved anybody have a redo policy?
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
Our school has embraced the Power of I - student can redo certain tests and assignments to mastery #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
How do you tailor HW to individual Ss? Does anyone offer choice/use a choice grid? #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved anybody have a redo policy?
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
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@MaryAnnReilly #Midleved Most homework is useless - it's more to keep parents quiet than to help kids!
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly #midleved That doesn't make all homework bad.
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
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@francesblo #midleved I'm a huge fan of giving students extended time to complete homework; wrestling with concepts takes time
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
RT @mthman: agreed #Midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@cybraryman1 #midleved Ugh...so many years to go. :)
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
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@francesblo 40 problems of the same algorithm tells me a lot. Why assign homework at all? #Midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@MaryAnnReilly #midleved Marzano research (and others) on homework. Has info on lower grades. http://bit.ly/eBRRVl
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Ss only need to see clear purpose besides busy work. RT @MaryAnnReilly: Unaware of research that supports issuing homework 2 K8 Ss #Midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I think parents are soooooo important please come to conferences!
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@MaryAnnReilly Very good point about meaningless assignments many students are given #midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
As a mom of a middle school students, so much of the homework he must do is pointless. #Midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@hrmason Cheer up. We helped our daughter through grad school #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved we do a blog entry every Friday on Twiducate
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
#midleved Daughter started Kindergarten. Helping her w/ homework has opened up my eyes to what students/parents go through.
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
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@mthman Have a look at http://bit.ly/hpKOBK Ideas for parent support. #midleved
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
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@mthman through the text+ app for my iPhone. I don't have to give them my #. The app creates a generic # that they text. #Midleved
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Mary Ann Reilly
MaryAnnReilly Mary Ann Reilly
I am unaware of any research that supports issuing homework to K-8 Ss. #Midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
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@hrmason Agreed...also frustrating because of how hard it is to communicate ideas over the phone, email, or text. #midleved
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
I maintain a webpage that both students and parents can access #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Giving multiple days for assignment so Ss can bring questions 2 school helps reduce frustration #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Do you post your assignments somewhere for Ss & parents to see? #midleved
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Rachel Craig
rachelacraig Rachel Craig
I give time at the beginning of class to for Ss to ask questions #Midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
How do you support parents that cannot help their child w/HW? #midleved
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
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@padgets I have been teaching 11th American History, next year, I'll have 9th World History. #Midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Right On! RT @rushtheiceberg: #midleved We need 2 remember that sometimes parents R not equipped to help Ss w/ homework for various reasons.
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@mthman #midleved Also post class notes, websites for review, tips, ect. onto Edline class page.
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
#midleved Download pdfs at http://bit.ly/eRNZLV Ideas for parents to help students at home but has great ideas that tchrs can adapt.
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Haven't found effective way for Ss to contact me at night without giving up off-time and without parent nastygrams #midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
#midleved We need 2 remember that sometimes parents are not equipped to help Ss w/ homework for various reasons.
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
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@MrsWilliamsBHS Do you give all of your Ss your phone number, or on a case-by-case basis? #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@mthman #midleved Helping at night is hard, almost impossible. I amke sure to allow time before assignment/due date so I can meet w/students
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@mthman Support from written assignments avail on paper/online 24/7 #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved we use Google apps, diigo, wikispaces and a promethean board to make homework valuable collaborative and full of conversations
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
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@mthman My students contact me through Edmodo or Text+ for iPhone. #Midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Do Ss have a way to contact you (email, phone, etc.) for questions on HW? #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
My Homework Debate page (both sides): http://tinyurl.com/4v5r2v8 #rethinkinghomework #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
How do you support students w/HW outside of class (evening)? #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
@MrsWilliamsBHS #midleved this is my second year and before that I was an Advanced Anatomy teacher I love my job now!
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
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@mthman yes and me...also themselves a few days after the homework is due as part of reflection... #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@francesblo @mthman #midleved Exactly.
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved I give homework everyday as a formative assessment
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
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@padgets I'll be teaching in a grade Freshman Academy next year. It will be the first at my school. #Midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
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@mthman Sometimes, but it can also be for later use in the year. More experiences offer more learning resources. #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Do they get feedback from other Ss? RT @rushtheiceberg: @mthman Feedback... #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved sorry I am late
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
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@francesblo Yes...it appears enjoyable & interesting to students #midleved
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Sharon Padget
padgets Sharon Padget
#midleved Hi everybody! My name is sharon and I am a 9th grade teacher in a freshman academy
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@mthman Aesthetically pleasing? #midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
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@mthman Feedback... #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Bring a question/experience back to class? RT @rushtheiceberg: #midleved Sometimes homework can be to simply experience our culture
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
#midleved Home learning is only worth while if students see the reason for it and it meets their needs and goals. Otherwise its 'busy work'.
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
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@mthman #midleved Finding the right book can make it relevant. Usually they have a choice in what they read.
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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@mthman Reading is usually choice, or they just go thru motions #midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
#midleved Sometimes homework can be to simply experience our culture
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Five Hallmarks of Good HW - Purpose, Efficiency, Ownership, Instill a sense of competence, & Task is aesthetically pleasing #midleved
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Boz23
Boz23 Boz23
#midleved Prefer 'home learning' to 'homework'. Gives it authenticity and purpose.
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Wanda Williams
MrsWilliamsBHS Wanda Williams
To review the lesson that day and prepare for the next test. #Midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Some HW is done/not done b/c practice. Writing gets feedback + grade. #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
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@hrmason Reinforcing reading is important, but is it relevant to them...do they have choice? #midleved
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Heather Mason
hrmason Heather Mason
@mthman To read every night. To finish work that they can't get done in class. To read some more.#midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Great issue (Sept '10) of Ed Leadership "Meaningful Work" has two great articles. http://j.mp/bQk4lL & http://j.mp/eEKvT5 #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
My HW System (sorry Alfie Kohn) http://tinyurl.com/4w5y8su #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Has to have a real purpose that kids understand #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Do you "grade" HW or merely provide feedback? #midleved
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Brian Wyzlic
brianwyzlic Brian Wyzlic
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@francesblo 30 minutes/day seems about right, but we need to make sure we look cross-curricular, which is tough day-to-day #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
In my school, daily HW in English, Math, less often other subjects #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
The key is providing HW that is not just busy work. You want them to think #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
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@mthman Good point. You don't want to overburden students #midleved
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Stephen Davis
rushtheiceberg Stephen Davis
#midleved Homework, in my class, is either extended time to finish classwork, or independent pract/refinement of close to mastered concepts
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
That depends...do you account for other teachers in the building also? RT @francesblo: How much time is reasonable for HW? #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
Years later a student in college thanked me for having do the current events assignment. He didn’t appreciate it then. #midleved
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Jerry Blumengarten
cybraryman1 Jerry Blumengarten
My daily HW was for students to either read, watch or listen to the major news stories. We would discuss in class next day #midleved
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
How much time is reasonable for HW? #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
During the first week(s) of school, what do you tell your students/parents to expect via homework? #midleved
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
Welcome back to the #midleved chat! I hope you had a good week in the classroom (or of spring break, like me!). Let's talk homework.
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
Don't forget to use #midleved hashtag during #midleved chat so your tweets are part of the convo
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Ron King
mthman Ron King
#Midleved chat in 5 min, topic: homework expectations for MS students #elemchat #edchat #cpchat #mathchat #scicht #sschat #engchat #artsed
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Fran Lo
francesblo Fran Lo
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